Harold Camping - gone for good
Just like the case of Sylvia Brown's death, I do not celebrate his death for the sake of those that were close to him, but I do for the sake of his past and present followers. Here's the Yahoo article:
Right away I scrolled through the comments. Most people are using the "No True Scotsman" argument, others just glad he is gone . . . and then I see the biblical quotes to "prove" that he was "no true christian". Lets go with the easiest one:
First of all, some manuscripts do not include the "nor the son" part. With this added in though, it makes an extraordinary conversation about the validity of the Trinity within Christian theology. Second though, lets take a look at what is before that:
Now, lets focus in on verse 34:
While Christ may not have a date and time, he is prophesying that these things will come within the generation of those that he is speaking to. Since that never happened and still has not happened . . . that makes him a false prophet and a liar. There are other versus to look at, but I think we only need to stick with this chapter. It is obvious that the words written are incorrect in every way. It's weird that people refer to this chapter all the time when referring to the "end times" as if they're coming. As if nation has not been fighting nation, kingdom against kingdom . . . as if famine and earthquake had not already been happening prior to this message. What Christ had to say was a doomsday prophecy of things that already happened, were presently happening and more that had yet to come. So, the problem with this is that it leaves room for every persons interpretation of whatever that means to them. If they want to add up a bunch of nonsensical things from the greek text, that should've been in aramaic in the first place, and formulate an arbitrary date and call it the end times . . . then they can. AND PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW.
It is an absurd notion that we are limited to the ideas of other people. We all teach each other. Work with it and go with it.