The Grand Ellipses

I listen patiently when I am waiting for reality to respond. I act impulsively when I have no idea what's going on . . .

"The Grand Ellipses … “? I love that moment when i’m thinking about something, or listening to something and i have that … moment. It’s that pause before you have your realization of clarity. So, i thought that would be a good name for this, to refer to that grand moment when we let our mind settle, let the questions and turbulence stir a bit and allow free thought to reign.

Harold Camping - gone for good

Just like the case of Sylvia Brown's death, I do not celebrate his death for the sake of those that were close to him, but I do for the sake of his past and present followers. Here's the Yahoo article:

Right away I scrolled through the comments. Most people are using the "No True Scotsman" argument, others just glad he is gone . . . and then I see the biblical quotes to "prove" that he was "no true christian". Lets go with the easiest one:

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.

First of all, some manuscripts do not include the "nor the son" part. With this added in though, it makes an extraordinary conversation about the validity of the Trinity within Christian theology. Second though, lets take a look at what is before that:

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Now, lets focus in on verse 34:

34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

While Christ may not have a date and time, he is prophesying that these things will come within the generation of those that he is speaking to. Since that never happened and still has not happened . . . that makes him a false prophet and a liar. There are other versus to look at, but I think we only need to stick with this chapter. It is obvious that the words written are incorrect in every way. It's weird that people refer to this chapter all the time when referring to the "end times" as if they're coming. As if nation has not been fighting nation, kingdom against kingdom . . . as if famine and earthquake had not already been happening prior to this message. What Christ had to say was a doomsday prophecy of things that already happened, were presently happening and more that had yet to come. So, the problem with this is that it leaves room for every persons interpretation of whatever that means to them. If they want to add up a bunch of nonsensical things from the greek text, that should've been in aramaic in the first place, and formulate an arbitrary date and call it the end times . . . then they can. AND PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW. 

It is an absurd notion that we are limited to the ideas of other people. We all teach each other. Work with it and go with it.